tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3096670002191538774.post7106675712395027505..comments2023-08-11T07:31:46.923-04:00Comments on Thoughts and Theology: Interesting verses from the Qur'an and the HadithJeffhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/01146601338956701881noreply@blogger.comBlogger16125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3096670002191538774.post-41695975108860712582011-08-10T13:01:41.889-04:002011-08-10T13:01:41.889-04:00Science And the Qur'an<a href="http://www.liveleak.com/view?i=b4f_1180885117" rel="nofollow">Science And the Qur'an</a>Dajinal-fahnqe the famousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3096670002191538774.post-52905433410224922832010-02-25T05:35:54.332-05:002010-02-25T05:35:54.332-05:00ISLAMIC SCIENCE:
Islamic Jurisprudence Books: Huma...ISLAMIC SCIENCE:<br /><a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xb-DRIIHIQc&feature=player_embedded" rel="nofollow">Islamic Jurisprudence Books: Human pregnancy could last for a period of FOUR years!</a>Jeffhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01146601338956701881noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3096670002191538774.post-54662323087852327852010-01-27T02:07:37.852-05:002010-01-27T02:07:37.852-05:00jeleasure,
I am not certain you receive many of m...jeleasure,<br /><br /><i>I am not certain you receive many of my emails. A lot of 'failed attempts' from trying to send you an email are coming to my inbox.</i><br /><br />Strange. I don't know why that is happening.<br /><br /><i>Anyway, I just wanted to say thanks for bringing the Living Water Publisher thing to my attention. I published an article on it last night Richmond Evangelical Examiner.<br /><br />It is not the current article. I just wanted you to know I am acknowledging you.</i><br /><br />OK, thanks for letting me know, Jim. Actually, I am receiving e-mail notifications of the Richmond Evangelical Examiner articles.<br /><br />Thanks again, Jim.Jeffhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01146601338956701881noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3096670002191538774.post-88277034543953528212010-01-27T01:30:59.137-05:002010-01-27T01:30:59.137-05:00Hi Jeff,
I am not certain you receive many of my...Hi Jeff,<br /> I am not certain you receive many of my emails. A lot of 'failed attempts' from trying to send you an email are coming to my inbox.<br /><br /> Anyway, I just wanted to say thanks for bringing the Living Water Publisher thing to my attention. I published an article on it last night <a href="http://www.examiner.com/x-25759-Richmond-Evangelical-Examiner~y2010m1d26-Living-Waters-Publisher-sends-Dawkins-a-banana" rel="nofollow"> Richmond Evangelical Examiner</a>.<br /><br />It is not the current article. I just wanted you to know I am acknowledging you.<br /><br />Thanks<br />Jimjeleasurehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07573831215568628361noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3096670002191538774.post-45049766731945502392010-01-21T00:30:40.845-05:002010-01-21T00:30:40.845-05:00(cont.)
We know from Islamic historians that Muha...(cont.)<br /><br />We know from Islamic historians that Muhammad's many wives did believe he was a a prophet of Allah, in part, because Muhammad would frequently go into epileptic frenzies and foam at the mouth, while receiving his "revelations". Also, unlike any of the true prophets of Israel, Muhammad would go through prolonged periods of time when he himself thought he was going mad, or that he was possessed by demons. In sharp contrast, the Hebrew prophets never acted like this. The Hebrew prophets were certain that God (Yahweh) was speaking to them. <br /><br />Muhammad claimed the angel Gabriel transmitted the entire Koran to him from Allah while he was living in the Hira Cave. At first, Muhammad feared he had been overtaken by a "Jinn", a troubling spirit. It was Muhammad's wife that convinced Muhammad that what he received in the cave was from God. Muhammad's wife Khadijah encouraged him that his visions were indeed from God, and that he had been chosen as his special messenger. Amr ibn Sharhabil says Muhammad mentioned to his wife Khadijah that he feared he was possessed by demons and wondered whether others might consider him possessed by jinn (Pfander 1910:345). He says Muhammad said; “When I went into seclusion I heard a voice. By Allah I feared that something wrong was going to happen.” Also revealing is the report by Al Waqidi that Muhammad had such an aversion to the form of the cross that he would break everything brought into the house with a shape of the cross on it (Nehls 1990:61).<br /><br />Muhammad himself was convinced that the "revelations" he received in the Hira Cave were evil and from a demon (Jinn). Muhammad's constant fits, foaming at the mouth and other manifestations certainly fit in with that idea. This is how demon possessed people are known to behave today, as they did in both the times of Jesus and Muhammad. The Hebrew prophets and Jesus Christ never behaved like this. But all over the world, where demons are listened to, you will find this kind of behavior. <br /><br />What can be rationally thought of the nearly weekly suicide bombings by Muslims, and the very real Muslim psychosis of thinking they will kill every Jew, and then every Christian and Hindu and every other non-believer, who doesn't convert to Islam?Jeffhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01146601338956701881noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3096670002191538774.post-21216395174013156962010-01-21T00:30:30.085-05:002010-01-21T00:30:30.085-05:00Jim,
Catatonia is a syndrome of psychological and...Jim,<br /><br />Catatonia is a syndrome of psychological and motorological disturbances. Patients with catatonia may experience an extreme loss of motor skills or even constant hyperactive motor activity. Catatonic patients will sometimes hold rigid poses for hours and will ignore any external stimuli.<br /><br />Epilepsy symptoms include seizures, muscle spasms and jerks, rigid body shaking, writhing, foaming at the mouth, black-outs, periods of missing memory, and possible sounds like grunting.<br /><br />Scripture gives some examples of people being possessed by demons. From these descriptions, we can find some symptoms of demonic influence as well as gain insights as to how a demon possesses someone. In some of these passages, the demon possession causes physical ailments (inability to speak, epileptic symptoms, blindness, etc. [Matthew 9:32-33, Mark 9:17-18]); in other cases the demon causes the individual to do evil (Judas is the main example).<br /><br />Generally speaking, there are some similarities between epilepsy, catatonia and demon possession. In the Bible, demons sometimes caused certain things to happen to people which resembled these medical conditions. But, contrary to what some people think today, they are not the same. When the demons were cast out by Jesus, the symptoms ceased. If the symptoms were caused by an underlying medical condition, then the symptoms would have continued, and Jesus would have been regarded as a fake. If the relevant conditions of the people Jesus healed were not demonic, but were either mental illness or epilepsy, then the people would not have responded to Jesus' 'treatment.' They would have continued to be 'sick' with whatever they had. Casting out a non-existent demon would not have helped them. So, demon possession and epilepsy are two different things, though some of the same symptoms are apparently shared by both.<br /><br />According to Al Waqidi, Muhammad would break everything brought into the house with a shape of the cross on it. Additionally, Ahmad ibn Hanbal (A.D. 855) said that Muhammad would foam at the mouth during prayer. Christians should immediately remember the Apostle Mark's telling of Jesus casting a demon out of a boy who was possessed. This demon-possessed boy also showed this same symptom of "foaming at the mouth".<br /><br />(cont.)Jeffhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01146601338956701881noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3096670002191538774.post-63569408756787020652010-01-20T20:51:01.336-05:002010-01-20T20:51:01.336-05:00Jeff,
that description you were giving of Muhamm...Jeff,<br /> that description you were giving of Muhammed's catatonia sounds a lot like epilepsy.<br /><br /> Of course, they knew nothing about epilepsy, then. So, why did people believe he was a prophet and not the devil?jeleasurehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07573831215568628361noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3096670002191538774.post-16069268677020648012010-01-15T16:14:07.704-05:002010-01-15T16:14:07.704-05:00What is the Koran?
Yemeni fragments of the Qur...<a href="http://www.theatlantic.com/doc/199901/koran" rel="nofollow">What is the Koran?</a><br /><br />Yemeni fragments of the Qur'an were found in 1972 during the restoration of the Great Mosque of Sana'a, in Yemen. Some of the parchment pages date back to the seventh and eighth centuries A.D., or Islam's first two centuries, and are perhaps the oldest Qurans in existence. Some of these fragments revealed small but intriguing aberrations from the standard Quranic text. Such aberrations, though not surprising to textual historians, are at odds with the orthodox Muslim belief that the Qur'an as it has reached us today is the perfect, timeless, and unchanging Word of God.Jeffhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01146601338956701881noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3096670002191538774.post-1243562338465245082010-01-14T19:07:32.995-05:002010-01-14T19:07:32.995-05:00The 20 Versions of the Qur’an today<a href="http://www.bible.ca/islam/islam-quran-changed-20-versions.htm" rel="nofollow">The 20 Versions of the Qur’an today</a>Jeffhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01146601338956701881noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3096670002191538774.post-52243745266167292112010-01-14T19:06:08.404-05:002010-01-14T19:06:08.404-05:00THE DIFFERENT ARABIC VERSIONS OF THE QUR'AN<a href="http://www.answering-islam.org/Green/seven.htm#history" rel="nofollow">THE DIFFERENT ARABIC VERSIONS OF THE QUR'AN</a>Jeffhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01146601338956701881noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3096670002191538774.post-76331630758474031072010-01-14T19:04:10.175-05:002010-01-14T19:04:10.175-05:00satire and theology,
Something never discussed by...satire and theology,<br /><br /><i>Something never discussed by the Muslim teacher while on my visits to a mosque. I was told there was one perfect version...figures.</i><br /><br />Yes, just like the fact that Jehovah's Witnesses, for example, will never tell you about their multiple past failed prophecies. Nor will Mormons tell you they actually believe in countless gods.Jeffhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01146601338956701881noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3096670002191538774.post-4427222081385500662010-01-14T19:00:33.502-05:002010-01-14T19:00:33.502-05:00jeleasure,
The Quran and the Hadith are companion...jeleasure,<br /><br /><i>The Quran and the Hadith are companions. Interesting. That is one more feather in the fiction cap for the Quran.</i><br /><br />Yes.<br /><br /><i>Symbolism in looking up or down would indicate something spiritual, wouldn't it?<br /><br />So, if a Muslim is looking down, what is he praying to?</i><br /><br />I think we both know the answer to that. Here's another clue:<br /><br />Mohammed’s Inspiration:<br />From the Hadiths:<br /><br />Mohammed would hear ringing in his ears; his heart would beat rapidly; his face turn red; his breathing would become labored; he would fall to the ground or lie down; he would shake; his eyes would open wide; his lips tremble; spit drool from the corners of his mouth; he would sweat profusely; he saw and heard things no one else ever saw or heard; he would sometimes make a snoring noise like that of a camel; and he would be covered with a sheet.<br />Vol I, Nos. 1, 2, 3, 4<br />Vol. II, chapter 16 (pg. 354), 544<br />Vol. III, Nos. 17, 829<br />Vol. IV, Nos. 95, 438, 458, 461<br />Vol. V, Nos. 170, 462, 618, 659<br />Vol. VI, Nos. 447, 448, 468, 478, 481, 508<br /><br />"Ayesha [Muhammad's favorite wife] reported "I saw him [Muhammad] while the revelation descended upon him on an intensely cold day; then it left him while his brow steamed with sweat" (Miskat IV).<br /><br />This is an interesting story since it supports that Muhammad temporarily lost control of himself to a spiritual being. Notice that Ayesha reports, it left him. It is important to ask, "What was "it"?<br /><br />In another story reported in the Hadith called Sahih Muslim, Book 26, Number 5395, Muhammad is reported to have gone into a trance-like state. Just before this phenomenon occurred, Muhammad was eating his evening meal and had been asked a question by another wife named Sauda. Then the event occurred. As the trance-like state took control over Muhammad, his thoughts and actions appeared to be frozen in time. No gestures or speech proceeded from Muhammad as long as he remained under spiritual captivation. Suddenly the phenomenon ended and Muhammad reentered the conversation with Sauda as if from the instant that he had earlier left that conversation. The Story about this event reads as follows:<br /><br />Narrated Ayesha [Muhammad's favorite wife]:<br /><br />. . . Allah's Messenger (may peace be upon him) was at that time in my house having his evening meal and there was a bone in his hand. Sauda [Another wife of Muhammad] reclined and said: Allah's Messenger. I went out and 'Umar said to me so and so [Asking Muhammad for permission]. She (Ayesha) reported: There came the revelation to him and then it was over; the bone was then in his hand and he had not thrown it and he said:" Permission has been granted to you that you may go out . . ."<br /><br />Another interesting story that parallels the first story. There is a sequence to the possession as follows:<br /><br />1. Muhammad has control of himself before the possession event occurs.<br />2. Muhammad loses control of himself as a spirit takes control of him. In each story, Muhammad is not able to speak to the people around him, he stops eating, or in general is not capable of response during this time of spiritual captivation.<br />3. When the spirit leaves, Muhammad gains control of himself and continues right where he left off.<br /><br />Let's compare this with the Bible.<br /><br />Here are some of the biblical passages: Matthew 9:32-33; 12:22; 17:18; Mark 5:1-20; 7:26-30; Luke 4:33-36; Luke 22:3; Acts 16:16-18. In some of these passages, the demon possession causes physical ailments such as inability to speak, epileptic symptoms, blindness, etc.Jeffhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01146601338956701881noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3096670002191538774.post-46375624283875627312010-01-14T17:48:20.350-05:002010-01-14T17:48:20.350-05:00'However, the fact that various conflicting Qu...'However, the fact that various conflicting Qur’ans were produced show another story altogether, not to mention Muhammad's episodes of being demon-possessed, plus the fact that the Qur'an teaches things like killing Jews and Christians, etc., and show that Allah must be an evil god.'<br /><br />Something never discussed by the Muslim teacher while on my visits to a mosque. I was told there was one perfect version...figures.Dr. Russell Norman Murrayhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11505655776770812228noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3096670002191538774.post-1463109594426088782010-01-14T17:23:18.335-05:002010-01-14T17:23:18.335-05:00The Quran and the Hadith are companions. Interesti...The Quran and the Hadith are companions. Interesting. That is one more feather in the fiction cap for the Quran.<br /><br />Symbolism in looking up or down would indicate something spiritual, wouldn't it?<br /><br />So, if a Muslim is looking down, what is he praying to?jeleasurehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07573831215568628361noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3096670002191538774.post-33746930329915878962010-01-14T03:58:03.692-05:002010-01-14T03:58:03.692-05:00satire and theology,
Again, very interesting.
Th...satire and theology,<br /><br /><i>Again, very interesting.</i><br /><br />Thanks, Russ. <br /><br />To Muslims, the Qur'an is the word of God 'vowel for vowel, syllable for syllable' (Abul A'ala Mawdudi, <i>The Message of the Prophet's Seerat,</i> p. 14), revealed in Arabic to Muhammad through the angel Gabriel at intervals over a period of some twenty years. It is considered to be uncreated and eternally existent on <i>lauh mahfuz,</i> a guarded tablet in heaven (Surah 85:22). Though the Qur'an was sent to Muhammad at specific times, it was always there with God. As God is, the Qur'an is.<br /><br />However, the fact that various conflicting Qur’ans were produced show another story altogether, not to mention Muhammad's episodes of being demon-possessed, plus the fact that the Qur'an teaches things like killing Jews and Christians, etc., and show that Allah must be an evil god.Jeffhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01146601338956701881noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3096670002191538774.post-26154257906905886752010-01-14T03:44:38.795-05:002010-01-14T03:44:38.795-05:00'After Muhammad died, various conflicting Qur’...'After Muhammad died, various conflicting Qur’ans were produced. It was the Caliph Uthman who made his own version of the Qur’an the official one (see Bukhari’s Hadith, Vol. 1, pg. 56, No. 63). He later burned all the other conflicting Qur’ans. The Qur’an sold today is the Uthman version.'<br /><br />Again, very interesting.Dr. Russell Norman Murrayhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11505655776770812228noreply@blogger.com